Mounting Wheels/Front and Back

[scottman2007]

Ok guys iam getting a bit upset with mounting wheels,i seem to have the worst time mounting wheels, i have a both tools not sure which is which,I have a purple tool that has the screw thing with a long needle thing at the end of the screw and i have the larger red tool that comes with a little metal disc wheel with a hole in it,a and brass nub on one side that also has a hole in,i believe one is a gear puller and on is a wheel puller.anyway can someone on here post step by step on how to mount gear on the axle and step by step on how top mount rear wheels and front wheels,and plesae can someone do this with pictures for every step..iam so discourage at this point iam ready to give up.
thanks in advance to whoever helps me on this part.
Scott

[Deleted]

Yeah, i feel your pain' mounting wheels is as easy as performing brain surgery with a lead pipe! i would also appreciate a how to on this subject. my pile of F****D wheels now outnumbers my collection of good wheels ;D

[scottman2007]

you are so right hellboy,i wish Sam or someone post a video or pictures ..step by step

[440gtx]

scottman,

what kind of wheels are you trying to mount? is this on a t-jet, 4 gear or inline? if you are using RRR or Vincent wheels, do not use a press. they will get damaged. i don't use a press on stock wheels either. the only wheels that i press on are delrin double flanged and sili-foams.

as far as your tools go, without seeing them i would say the one with the long thin tip is a wheel/gear puller. the other tool sounds like a wheel press.

[nosubfor3]

Go to the Tec tips forum and pick the MM/PS Build up topic. On page two Sam shows how to use a wheel puller to remove wheels and gears of the axle. I believe from your description "I have a purple tool that has the screw thing with a long needle thing at the end of the screw", this is your wheel / gear puller tool. As for mounting wheels as soon as I get a chance today I'll take pics and post them. Check this web page out. Lots of helpful tips to build a t-jet.
www.bat-jet.com/webspot/fraycar06.html

[scottman2007]

440 gtx,i was ounting afx drag wheels on the rear and the front,basically what me and hell boy want is step by step on front wheels no matter what kind the yare as well as rar wheels and maybe diffferent types. i havea gear puller and a wheel puller,one is purple and one is red.maybe when i get achance ill take pictires of what i have,when i bought them ,no directions on how to use either one.but i bought them from one of the HO links,maybe lucky rabbit.

[eddiebee]

I'm right there with you guys. I bought a puller and a press. Both are supposed to be able to do both wheels and gears. But I mess up pretty much everything I try. Maybe that has something to do with my performance at the races. I cann't get the proper gear ratio and tire sizes on my cars. Just today I messed up a final drive pinion gear trying to get my second gasser ready. Oh well gues I'll keep running them with stock gearing in them.

[scottman2007]

i so hear you i have messed up so many wheels,its crazy and when you buy these pullers and wheels press no instructions at all on how to use them.i would also like to know how do you maybe take diecast rims and fit slot car tires on them as well,my cars might not run the best but i like them to look good.

[nosubfor3]

The tools you have work great for doul flange rims and silicone foam tires. Not good for anthing else. As 440GTX said a wheel press will damage Vincent , RRR, AFX rims. This is how I mount wheels on T-jets and AFX.What I do is get the rims started on the axle. Then center the chassis in the jaws of the grip. SLOWLY squeeze the clamp watching to make sure everything stays square. Look at your progress from all angles.The yellow pads are rubber to protect the rims. You don't need grips this big. I'm sure there are smaller sizes out there.

[SKR]

This is from the MM/PS thread. The gear puller also pull wheels from axles.

Wheel Press and Puller

This is a much easier way of pulling off wheels and pressing on gears to you rear axle. Ragu, if you can't get the wheels and gear on then go ahead and send it apart and I'll get them on for you for the race. Same goes for anybody else having problems. If your just getting into racing then check out these tools. They will save you some pain for your fingers as well as some frustration. I show a press and puller from Lucky Bob's. There are other pullers and presses floating around the web. Do a google search for HO Slot car wheel press and puller and see what you come up with.

Pulling the rear wheels. This is a wheel puller from Lucky Bob's part #LB 2001 HO Gear & Tire Puller


After both wheels are off I put the axle in the press and push the stock gear over as much as possible with part #LB 2000 HO Gear & Tire Press then use the puller to finish the job.


Final pull to get the stock gears off


Take your new 22 Tooth Crown Gear and press it on your axle


Here is a picture of two rear Wizzard wheels and tires. The one on the right has a trimmed nipple. This allows the wheels to sit closer to the chassis if your going for a slammed body and want the tires to tuck underneath the wheel wells.

[eddiebee]

Can anybody show and/or give any help changing the final drive pinion gears I've already destroyed a bunch of them !!!

[mobydidit]

this is the press I use for T-Jet gears. You can order them from Rick Terry
rt-ho.com/tools.html

[nosubfor3]

Ok I have a question. What rear wheels and tires is every one useing to tuck under body's?
What rim and width tire? Body's like the AW P/S and F/C bodys.Especially the narrow Hairy Canary body's. Does anyone use Vincent wheels or custom FX for raceing? Ok maybe a couple questions.

[TGM2054]

I've been using Delrin wheels from AJ's, Wizzard, BSRT, and Quicker Engineering. As far as tires, silicones of different diameters to meet class rules. I also use a T-jet axle. Be careful tucking the tires in too close. They'll ride on the power rails and spin. I found that out the hard way after the Mfrs Championship at Loins.

[bondoman2k]

OK, couple of things.
First, do not use Vincent rims on anything you expect to be anywhere near fast. They are pretty much ALWAYS 'out of round'. Most of the 'faster' guys only use the single or double flange Delrin wheels, or even 'factory' wheels. Not that you can't use Vincents, just be sure to use the method I talk about in the rest of this message, and/or check them first to be sure they aren't TOO far off to 'true'.
Now, on that note, should you decide to use anything that actually LOOKS good (the Delrins are really 'ugly'..lol), here's a trick that might help. Also helps out on stock rims (like the 4 gear rear slotted rims or even Vincents). When you remove the rims from the car, simply 'chuck' an axle in either your Dremel (I think that runs too fast myself), or an electric drill, or even better, a cordless drill. Mount your rim on the axle (press it on) then spin the drill using an emery board or nail file where the tire would mount on the rim. This serves two purposes. One, it 'trues' the wheel so it doesn't wobble as much, and two, it gives the tires something to bite to when you glue it to the rim. Best glue to use for slip on tires is probably some type of silicone glue (I like either Loctite or Permatex from the local auto parts store), Clear color works best, but I've used black as well. Just be sure to clean the excess off the rim with a rag and/or a toothpick. You're better off trying to clean it before the silicone dries, since after it dries you may remove paint or plating as well. Also, this is a way you can make silicone slip on drag tires fit diecast rims. But, one thing you need to be careful of with diecast rims, is that the center of the wheel (axle hole) will need drilled out on the backside (unluss you want to drill all the way through) since most slot axles are bigger diameter than diecast axles. If you have a drill press, and can make a 'jig' to hold the wheel straight while drilling, it's easy. If not, it's VERY easy to 'off center' the hole. I know, I've tried about 20 sets of diecast rims, but only about 5 sets came out useable. Plus, the diameter of the rim will need to be watched carefully, slip ons sometimes don't fit snug after sanding out the 'ribs' that are used to mount the rubber from the diecast. So, you will need to 'mix and match' the slot silicones.
Now that I've THOROUGHLY confused all of you, time for me to get my dinner..LOL.
Ron (Bondo)