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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2008 20:44:47 GMT -7
Chrysler Corporation has registered "HEMI" as a trademark in the United States[1], though they were neither the hemi engine's inventors nor the first to commercialize hemi engines. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemi_engineOur 1980 Toyota Corolla had a Hemi! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2008 20:49:06 GMT -7
From the Top Fuel Wiki article previously referenced: These superchargers are in fact derivatives of General Motors scavenging-air blowers for their two-cycle diesel engines, which were adapted for automotive use in the early days of the sport. The model name of these superchargers delineates their size; i.e. the once commonly used 6-71 and 4-71 blowers were designed for General Motors diesels having six cylinders of 71 cubic inches each, and four cylinders of 71 cubic inches each, respectively. Thus, the currently used 14-71 design can be seen to be a huge increase in power delivery over the early designs. |
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Post by gm454 on Jul 8, 2008 21:38:34 GMT -7
I hope that nobody actually believes that Prudohmme racing is using chevy power. Yes they are sponsored by chevy but they are powered by an aftermarket Chrysler HEMI. Even the new "ford boss 500" that Force racing is working on has HEMI heads on it. According to Wikipedia: "The engine used to power a Top Fuel drag racing car has its roots in the second generation Chrysler Hemi 426 "Elephant Engine" made 1964-71. Although the Top Fuel engine is built exclusively of aftermarket parts, it retains the basic configuration with two valves per cylinder activated by pushrods from a centrally-placed camshaft. The engine has hemispherical combustion chambers, a 90 degree V angle; 4.8" bore pitch and a 5.4" cam lift. The configuration is identical to the overhead valve, single camshaft-in-block "Hemi" V-8 engine which became available for sale to the public in selected Chrysler Corporation (Dodge, DeSoto, and Chrysler) automotive products in 1952." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_FuelThe HEMI clones have been the only successfully campainged top fuel engine for decades. It doesn't matter what decal is on the car. It still has a HEMI in it. Could Prudohmme's digger possibly have a Chevrolet designed bottom end with hemi heads on it? If there is a bowtie sticker on that car, GM was probably involved in some part of the design of the motor. Maybe it is powered by a Hemi-headed big block Chevy rather than "powered by an aftermarket Chrysler HEMI" ;D ;DI hope nobody actually believes that the "aftermarket" Hemi motors being used in top fuel today are Chrysler Hemis in any way. Just because they have a Hemi Head design does not make them a Chrysler product. (ie Donovan, Arias, modern Keith black etc) ;D There were all makes of motors with Hemispherical (HEMI) combustion chamber heads on them, but that didn't make them "aftermarket Chrysler HEMIS". Pontiac designed one in the late 60's or early 70's that never made it into production, but Mickey Thompson built Hemi Headed Pontiacs for the dragstrip in the late 60's early 70's. Look back to some of the Brutus GTO's for example. The Brutus GTO in 65 or 66 had a M/T Hemi Headed Pontiac in it for motivation. A Pontiac bottom end with a Hemi head = hemi pontiac, not an "aftermarket Chrysler Hemi".  Mickey Thompson also had the rarest T-BOLT ever made...it was the only TBOLT made with a Hemi Headed 427 Ford in it. Like Killerskid said, early 80s corollas had hemi headed motors in them, but that doesn't mean that they were "powered by an aftermarket Chrysler HEMI". ;D 8-)Anyone know where I could find a TJET Hemi Corolla to enter in the Super Stock Nationals next year.  ;D(Keep in mind guys, that this intended to be all in good fun) ;D |
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Post by gm454 on Jul 8, 2008 22:22:51 GMT -7
Here is a link to a site that shows an ARIAS Hemi headed Big Block Chevy Motor......Big Block Chevy design (not Chrysler designed bottom end) with hemi heads. It is a Hemi motor but just not a Chrysler designed Hemi. Just wanted to show that all modern Hemi headed motors do not have to be Chrysler design like the WIKI definition says. ;D 8-)Again, to 440GTX and all others, this is all intended in good fun. www.streetrodderweb.com/tech/0712sr_arias_hemi_chevy_engine/photo_01.html |
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Post by johnbalich on Jul 8, 2008 22:42:48 GMT -7
i didnt say "hemi's are the baddest engine.........I said THEEEE HEMI .... Chrysler products and derivations... are the baddest engine of all....
all in good fun............for me too
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Post by 440gtx on Jul 8, 2008 22:48:37 GMT -7
I found this on www.60sfunnycars.com. "Lew Arrington was one of the early funny car stars. Lew raced the infamous "Brutus" GTO out of the Northern California based Goodies Speed Shop. A real big block Pontiac powered the converted stock GTO at first, but the Pontiac could not stand the excessive amounts of nitro. A 392 Chrysler with Pontiac stamped on the valve covers replaced the pure Poncho motor." Sorry guys but this is fun for me. |
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Post by 440gtx on Jul 9, 2008 1:56:45 GMT -7
Ok guys, this is my last post on this thread. I try my best to stay out of this kind of discussion. After years of watching and reading about Mopars getting pounded on and seeing racing organizations bending over backwards for the other brands (especially GM). I take defending my beloved Mopars to an extreme.
Just a few examples
Nascar bans the 426 hemi for the 1965 season but after a boycot by the Chrysler teams, Nascar lets them return half way thru the season with a single 4 bbl carb. Remember when Petty went Drag racing?
1971 Nascar puts a cubic inch limit on special cars like the superbird and daytona at 305 cubic inches.
Early 70's prostock, the small block Mopars were carrying the same weight as the big block chevys and fords. Later Nhra admittedly handycapped Mopar out of prostock racing.
In the 90's when chrysler was ready to get back into Nascar they didn't have any rear wheel drive cars. Nascar rules said that all cars must be rear wheel drive models. But when Chevy wanted to run the lumina, Nascar changed the rules to accommodate them.
So, I'm sorry for getting too serious about this topic but I can't help myself.
440GTX out!
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Post by gm454 on Jul 9, 2008 6:54:10 GMT -7
www.pontiacheaven.org/pictures/pontia6.jpg ;DJust saying..... there was a Hemi headed pontiac used by Mickey Thompson....not all were chrysler hemis with pontiac stamped on the valve covers. ;D "In early '65 Lew Arrington and Jim Leiberman built and ran the GTO "Brutus". Originally, it ran a blown, injected 421 M/T HEMI headed Pontiac engine."www.pontiacheaven.org/pontiac%20history.htmThe early 65 Brutus GTO had a blown, 421 Pontiac with M/T hemi heads on it when Jungle Jim drove it...not just a Chrysler 392 with Pontiac stamped on the valve covers. ;D Scroll down about half way on the page from the second link listed above until you see the entries for 1965 to see pics of the M/T hemi pontiac version of the Brutus GTO. The 392 Chrysler Hemi came later, after Jungle parted ways with the Brutus team.
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Post by gm454 on Jul 9, 2008 7:13:17 GMT -7
Here at Kdog Racing we reconize that all the American Car companys had huge contributions to auto racing. Like the first mass produced car for the common man, and a very popular salt flat racer, the Mopar Model "T". OOP'S that was Ford. The next icon the Chevy 32 Duece Coupe, WOW Ford again. OK Ok the first US car to conpete with the European cars in Sports car racing the Mopar Cobra Coupe, SHOOT another Ford. Then there was the Chevy GT 40 DANG It's all been about Ford. NEVERMIND. ;DOK gang, how about a little smack for the Fords. Hey KDOG you are right about the 32 Deuce Coupe being an Icon....most of them I have seen as street rods have been modified with "Henry Ford's better idea".....put a Chevy motor in it for power. ;D BTW KDOG, you forgot to mention the 05 and 06 Ford GT. I saw pics of one of those painted up with the Gulf livery and it looked pretty sweeeet. |
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Post by Demon340 on Jul 9, 2008 20:04:45 GMT -7
New moive this fall called DIRTY HEMI
STARRING CLINT MOPAR and CO-STARRING SLOW FORD
MOPAR sitting at stop light and FORD pulls up wanting to race.
FORD- Hey that thing got a HEMI.
MOPAR- YEAH 426 the most powerful engine ever builded.
And I know what your thinking dose he have 50-75 or100%
nitro in the tank. WELL DO YOU FEEL LUCK PUNK
OH YEAH THERE WHERE FORDS DAMAGE WHILE FILMING THIS
MOIVE. THEY ARE NOW ON EBAY LOOKING FOR DOORS.
HOPE THIS MAKES YOUR DAY TOM
HOWS THAT GM 454
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Post by gm454 on Jul 9, 2008 20:23:55 GMT -7
That was pretty good ;D.....sounds like it almost could have been a narrative of the chase scene in Bullitt. (one of the best chase scenes ever in a movie) Except in Bullitt the Hemi was the one damaged when the Mustang ran it off the road and the Charger blew up.  Tom, I think you should consider working that scene up into a larger screenplay and shop it around for a new movie....it has been a long time since anyone made a good movie showing people thrashing on old musclecars. (If the smack talk is this good, I can only imagine the actual races are going to be great. can't wait to see the race coverage. thanks in advance kdog, Tim and the rest of the hosts in St. Louis) |
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Post by Demon340 on Jul 9, 2008 21:03:08 GMT -7
Hey GUYS
I forgot to put the Y in LUCKY I think I ve had to much NOS
tonight so dont steal my tires tonight.
THANKS TOM
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Post by SKR on Jul 9, 2008 21:05:39 GMT -7
I heard about Dirty Hemi. Isn't that the movie where the Fords roost mud all over the Dodges? Ragu, stop writing in the mud. This will leave scratches in the paint I got your dirty Hemi Tom!!!!!! ;D   |
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Post by gm454 on Jul 9, 2008 21:15:20 GMT -7
Tom, you said in an earlier post that Hemi stands for High Energy Motor Icon. If the DIRTY HEMI you speak of is a Cuda.....does Cuda mean Completely Underpowered Dirty Automobile?
What if DIRTY HEMI is a GTX?...does GTX stand for Garbage Truck Xpress? ;D
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